Kamusta!
I am Allen, 21, male from Manila.
I created this blog to provide useful information to orthognathic surgery patients in the Philippines. I also wish to make my blog a place to discuss concerns and issues related to the procedure.
In view of the extreme lack of available information (even in the internet) regarding orthognathic surgery in the Philippines, I shall be your personal guide / researcher who would tell you everything you may want to know about this still-unpopular surgical procedure.
Before anything else, I want you to click the following links. They provide helpful info:
http://cosmeticmaxillofacialsurgery.rxpinoy.com/index.php?account=cms&mod=ae5874&category=services&cid=a1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJFlgn96DOo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3CJQjQb7Mk&feature=related
http://www.oc-j.com/june00/presurg.htm
http://www.emedicine.com/plastic/topic177.htm
http://herkules.oulu.fi/isbn9514267508/html/c237.html
So here's the part 1 of my personal experience with the surgery:
I underwent orthognathic surgery few months ago. Based on the cephalometric evaluation before the surgery, I had class III malocclusion (underbite - my lower teeth were protruding). I also had assymetric front jaw. So the surgeon told me my lower jaw needed 10-millimeter push-back and a few millimeters genioplasty (removal of some bone on my front lower jaw to correct its contour).
Most of the time, a comprehensive orthodontic treatment is needed before the surgery to prepare the teeth for its new occlusion or bite after the surgery. In other cases, it's usually the braces that keep the upper and lower jaws immobilized after the surgery. Yes, the braces stays on before, during and after the surgery.
Unluckily I was not properly informed about that. So I proceeded with the surgery without enough knowledge on what will happen after the operation in the OR. So when I woke up in my room at the hospital, I realized they put something they called "archbar" on my lower and upper teeth to immobilize my jaws. It was awful.
I could see the wires of that archbar going through my gums. I never expected it's going to be like that. The only thing I had in my mind at that time was I need to calm down and to talk to my surgeon. When my surgeon visited me for the check-up, he assured me that it's fine. I could not do anything because it's already inside my mouth, and my only concern then was to get well and recover fast from my surgery.
When I got back home, I immediately checked youtube and from there, I saw that none of the patients wore that archbar. It was really upsetting. I mean I thought I was exposed to some kind of primitive method in this surgery. Until now, I can't find any patient who wore that archbar.
It took 2 months before that god-damn archbar was removed. I endured 8 weeks of total mouth closure with only Ensure and other liquids to drink. No food. No anything. I was really frustrated.
(to be continued)
Feel free to ask questions.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 233 of 233MrPhilippines here. Update nga pala sa surgery namin ng friend ko. Yung name ng clinic na nagperform ng surgery is EverM. Di ko masyadong tanda yung quote sa surgery pero nasa bandang 9000-10000 dollars. Pero halos 30000-40000 dollars nagastos ko kasi nag stay kame ng Korea ng 4 months. Happy naman kame lalo na ko kasi kitang kita yung pagbabago and walang nerve damage. Kung may budget naman kayo try nyo sa Korea. :)
Late ka na dear. Naaga pa nga flight namin, dapat 3rd week ng March naging 1st week. Sayang.
MrPhilippines
Sayang napaaga kasi flight namin and nalimutan ko ng bumisita dito nung nasa Korea kame. 1st week palang lumipad na kame.
MrPhilippines
Sayang late na kasi yung replies nyo. Feb 20 pa ko nagpost tapos napaaga yung lipad na dapat 3rd week pa ng March naging 1st week.
MrPhilippines
Try nyo po si Dr Quinones.. May chin reduction surgery po sya.. 75k
Hi guys, I'm currently facing the same problem you guys are experiencing and it would be great if we could talk with each other, someone who can understand your sufferings and frustration regarding with having an underbite. Add nyoko sa facebook or message me at gmail. I'm a 21 y.o male and currently living in cebu, malay nyo baka sabay tayo magpa surgery soon enough ^^
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Same din sa akin 30y/o na po ako ... 5yrs ko nang dala dala ko 2 ... sumasakit palagi panga ko ... 1yr kulong lang sa bahay ... nahihiyang lumabas ... parang wala nang kwenta buhay ko ... 4yrs nagtratrabaho bilang contraction worker ... nahihiya pa rin ako makipag usap ...
Hello ninyo po. Meron po ba kayong kakilalang doctor para sa ganyang surgery sa Cebu na hindi masyadong kamahalan?
Hello po pwde bang magtanong if saang clinic po sa korea kayo nag.opera?
D.S.
need more info po about dr quiniones. Spexialty
Wherebouts of his clinic
And have u experienced it being treated by Dr. QUINIONES.?
THANKS!
Hey man! From my anonymous name, yes I am a teen that has problems with his appearance, my case is my lower jaw is undeveloped therefore my jawline looks weak and sometimes I look like I don't have one at all. It started in 9th Grade where I saw a side view photo of myself, then dun na din nag start yung pagiging self-deprecating ko.
I've researched about people who proceded with the surgery similar to mine and so far they were amazing results! My worries lang is the experiences of the surgeons here in our country. Not to be judgemental or whatever, medyo skeptical lang ako if I'll compare them to surgeons in other countries like Korea and Thailand. Naging conclusion ko dun is naging undecisive ako whether saan mas maganda gawin yung surgery.
I'm also curious if the surgery is in-line to cosmetics or is it for medical reasons, pero no matter what I'll still pursue this haha. Gusto ko din gawin to as early as possible before I age into pure adulthood, which brings me to the question, may limit ba tong classes of surgeries na to? It may sound stupid but I am really curious to know haha.
I would love a reply, good or bad haha. That's all for now, and thanks for making this blog to share some important experiences that a lot of us have been dying to know. You're a wonderful being and may God Bless you po!
Hello everyone, is the blog still active? I've been searching about jaw surgery over the web and it led me to this blog post, like everyone else in here, I have an underbite too, and I have an information you might want to know about the procedure, cost and etc.
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Hi, I am surprised to see this blog. Anyway, I know a maxillofacial surgeon who also does these cases. He is a younger surgeon but he was trained from a foreign country. He is from De Los Santos Medical Center in QC.
Dr.sia of chong hua hospital. He does orthognathic surgery.
May i know the name of the doctor?
Hi Anyone, who can help me? I'm not having the same case as other, ang akin naman is overbite and laging tawag is Kabayo. I'm a girl yet madalas ganyan ang tawag sakin in public. I really want to know an ortho who can help me with my problem. yung mura lang sana :)
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Hey guys! health insurance companies in USA, Canada and UK usually cover this type of procedure for free or for a less price...so here’s my story....I underwent double jaw surgery to correct my underbite in DC last July 19, 2018 (babalu no more!) The cost was about $80,000 but eveything was covered by the insurance ...I only paid $20 as copay for the surgery...wala akong numbness or pain when I woke up from the surgery (as in wala) I can feel my entire face, cheeks, lips lahat sa face ko (ang galing ng surgeon dito guys) ...Jaw surgery is actually common here in the USA and most insurance cover this type of procedure as this procedure is not purely cosmetic, kinoconsider din kasi nila ang long term negative effects pag meron kang underbite or overbite...so mas gugustuhin ng insurance companies na mag undergo na lang ng surgery kaysa mas dadami pa ang complications later on sa clients nila... �� bago yung surgery ay kailangan munang magbraces para maging perfect na yung teeth bago nila i-cut yung jaw during the surgery...1 year akong nagbrace before surgery...during that time, mas naging prominent yung underbite ko dahil pinag-straighten nila yung teeth...once na align na at mukha nang straight yung ngipin then yun na inoperahan na ako....I’m 1 month post op at meron pa rin slight swelling sa nose at upper lip ( sabi nang surgeon it will take 3-6 months or even until a year para mawala yung swelling)...basta worth it talaga itong surgery!
wala na po akong masabi parehas lang po tayo lahat
hindi ko na ata mapapa opera yung akin pero ask ko lang po kung gumaling na ba yung sa inyo������������
Cho Chang need pa po ba ng work sa ibang bansa 17yrs lang po ako
Pano po ba yang insurance Emman Zamora name ko sa FB pa send po ng details need ko po talaga
Hello how much it will cost the orthognathic surgery, because i really want it
Hi ask ko lang if active paba to i think i have tmj plus crossbite plus ung upper teeth ko is all crowns na. Please help
HI GUYS. Im Rey. Can you suggest what trusted hospital sa philippines akong pwedeng mag pa avail sa surgery? And how much would it cost?
Do we have facebook group especially sa mga underbite
Napaka uncommon pa ng jaw surgery dito sa atin sa pinas and ang hirap maka collect ng info...
Same here guys we need to work hard first to pay that operation because it really hurt that they call you BABALU ☹️
Hi active pa ba yung prognathism support group sa fb? Nag request to join ako pero di pa naapproved.
May ka natry na pa mag pa double jaw surgery sa pgh? Nabalitaan kong mas mura daw doon. Kamusta naman ang experience nyo? Kindly share. Thanks
Hannah
surfing thru the web and found this blog,,
just wanna share my thoughts abt having the same condition. I'm just a teen, specifically still in junior high, that has the same problems as these. Hindi naman dahil sa iba pero sakin lang. Sometimes, I see myself away from others just because I'm kind of insecure of my looks. I've seen people doing the surgery with so many amazing results. Which sometimes leads me to have dreamed of this surgery.
My case is probably not that worst, it's just really my lower teeth and chin sticking out and it annoys me. I hope this can be corrected by just braces.
Maybe this blog is not active na, jusko 2020 na haha
Hi sa inyo, im 20 years old and I have the same 'mahaba baba' issues. Nadepress ako ng sobra at nakailan na ring suicide attempts dahil hindi ko na kaya yung pambubully sakin all through out high school hanngang senior high. Lagi ako umiiyak at nagtatanong sa Diyos na bakit ganito pa yung mukha ko. Napa ka unfair. Ang pangit ng front at side profile ko tuwing magpipicture kaya mas pinipili ko nalang na huwag magpakuha ng litrato. Wala din ako mga kaibigan kasi hindi na ko lumalabas ng bahay, pati sa social media hiyang hiya ako sa itsura ko. Madalas hinihiling ko nalang sana hindi na ko magising kasi hindi ko maenjoy ang buhay ko. Palagi nalang ako pinagtatawananat nilalait. Ang baba ng tingin ko sa sarili ko, tipong gusto ko nalang kainin ako ng lupa. Nung nadiscover ko na may surgery para sa ganitong case, nanlumo ako kasi wala akong pera pang paayos. 2020 na at, ganito pa din ako. no bloomer
Oh wow! Hey there! This blog is from circa 2008! But still I’m hoping that you guys are still active on here. I’m a candidate for a double jaw surgery and I need further infos on the most qualified maxillofacial surgeons in the country and guys for those who has undergone double jaw surgery, how much did it cost you in total?
Gusto ko nalang umiyak, Ang hirap dalhin netong underbite I'm 16 year old po, mafifix pa po ba to pag nasa 20+ na age ko? Hirap po kasi ng life e di alam San makukuha yang 500k Ó╭╮Ò
Hayst my biggest insecurity was my overbite teeth. And you all right it loses confidence😥how i wish na sana balang araw pag may trabaho nako mapa opera ko na ngipin ko😌
Your surgeon should be imprisoned for life for making your jaw even worse. As soon as i saw your surgeon suggest a 'pushback' to your mandible (lower jaw) because of your underbite i know for a fact that man steals other people's money for a living. I know this is circa 2008 BUT TO EVERYONE READING THIS, THE REASON WHY YOU OR OTHER PEOPLE DEVELOP AN UNDERBITE IS BECAUSE YOU OR THOSE PEOPLE LACK THE PROPER DEVELOPMENT OF THE MAXILLA (UPPER JAW). Bilang pinanganak na filipino, nasa genes naman natin na magkaroon ng mas maliit na maxilla compared sa other races eh. Di natin makukuha yung same jaw level natin compared sa other races BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T BE IMPROVED. The surgeon should have advised to advance the maxilla forward and if needed tailored to your cosmetic needs. But no, that terrorist wanted to ruin your jaw further more by pushing the mandible so far back behind your maxilla. PICTURE THIS, YOU ALREADY HAVE AN UNDERDEVELOPED MAXILLA AND NOW, THE SURGEON PUSHED BACK YOUR MANDIBLE TO BE AS SAME LEVEL AS YOUR UNDERDEVELOPED MAXILLA. It's a recipe for disaster and future jaw problems (tmj/tmd/sleep apnea) awaits you. Baka nga, as of this time of writing, the original poster already show signs of this problem. And maybe have more bad symptoms of a weak jaw such as advanced aging, narrow face, brittle teeth and gums, small palate, eye problems (due to lack of eye support), neck problems, posture and many others.
WHATEVER YOU DO, KUNG WALA NAMANG PROBLEM SA JAW, TEETH, GUMS OR SA BUONG MOUTH. WAG NA WAG KAYONG MAGPAPACONSULT SA ISANG FILIPINO DOCTOR OR AVAIL SERVICES (SUCH AS BRACES) TO THEM. ABOUT 80% OF THESE DOCTORS (WHO OPERATE THEIR OWN CLINICS) PRACTICE BARBARIC METHODS (SUCH AS TEETH EXTRACTIONS) TO MILLIONS OF FILIPINO KIDS AND ADULTS
would rather fly out the country and spend millions to consult a foreign dentist/ortho that promotes expansion/advancement of the jaw rather than stay with this barbaric filipino dentist.
Hindi ako self-hating filipino, but it's clear to me that none of our present and new dentist/ortho knows how to expand/advance the jaw to make our jaw healthy. Alam naman natin na maliit talaga yung facial bones/skull natin in general compared to the other races because we're asian with diets that dominantly eat soft foods but it doesn't mean that we can'timprove our facial bones to prevent facial problems in the future.
Always remember, JAW>>>WHITE TEETH or teeth in general.
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